Re: History of the Piano … I started as a sax w/flute and clarinet doubling chops and learned to play adequate piano for pop bands - which is all ear and instincts. I myself love it! Expert Irish Piano Lesson [Tunes | Accompaniment | Ornamentation] - Duration: 13:21. : P ; ). There are a lot of tunes where your I, IV, V chords will work, e.g. Molly Durkin, The Widow Malone, Let Mr McGuire Sit Down were my favorite of the songs utilizing vocals. Outside of music, the term means to improvise or fabricate, and also can hold true in theater music. I have arrived and found some real clunkers. Find your perfect arrangement and access a variety of transpositions so you can print and play … If not, who are the rising starts to look out for? There is a danger, say, of looking at each bar of a tune in turn and saying "that chord fits those notes the best" and ending up with a nothing progression. No music. She wanted instead to do on the piano … There are so, so many great Irish … there will be no recorded examples this time! fiddlers. He also said that it’s important to realise that, although the chords are few, they often don’t change at predictable places in the tune. Stronger would be something like |Am|F|G|C|. We played Coleman tunes, but crucially in 4/4, with the master coupler on the box, and it worked very well. Piano Vamping Chords Fingerpicking Guitar Books Amazon com. One of the few advantages of playing a Digital Piano is that I can turn the volume down low enough so I can hear all of the other musicians at the session. I am a classically trained pianist, and vamping was a whole new technique for me. The Scottish reel Pipe Major David Manson, just the first line. | A | A | D A | F#m G | This peaceful music will bring comfort to those … Oh yeah, he’s not an Irish player though, Cape Breton. It’s its own style and vibe and was a fun change. This is done by: Playing with OR between the melody; … the main trick to accompanying Irish music is to understand not only the tune melody and its harmonic possibilities, but the WAY the musicians are playing the tune, its ebbs and flows and natural structure. Geraldine Cotter’s book "Seinn An Piano" is also excellent. Speaking of nice sounding acoustic pianos - the Cork School of Music bought something like 50 new Steinways recently. Some people are critical of the accompaniment style of John Doyle but I have more respect for the opinions of Liz Carroll and Jerry Holland. VINTAGE HARMONICA 78s Pat Missin. 1. For me, on guitar, it’s a combination of the following: . Reg Hall is also someone I can listen to, he tends to keep it nice and simple. I'd like to try. From the jolly honky-tonk feel of the double tracked banjo on the opening polkas, to the powerful banjo and bouzouki air of the ‘Dear Irish … Music full of warmth and exuberance from Seán O' Driscoll (banjo, bouzouki) and Larry Egan (accordion). I am used to seeing 100 year old uprights that haven’t been tuned since Paddy Maloney was in diapers, or spinets uf unknown provenance that sound like the toy pianos my kids played. The theory helps organize your harmonic ideas as they develop but it cannot stand alone. On recordings its unforgivable. Vamp on the piano with help from a producer and musical director in this free video clip. And, since real pianos are very rare, I have had to use what I jokingly refer to as my genuine imitation piano (a Roland EP-90 Digital Piano) when I play at the sessions. It’s very difficult to put into words but you would know it was strong by how it sounds. If you aren’t a member of The Session yet, you can sign up now. Geoffwright, if the electric piano is made out of glass, does that make it a pane in the glass? Don’t be discouraged if this all seems a bit complicated. | Am | Am | G | G | Fm | Fm | Em | Em | If you are a member of The Session, log in to add a comment. http://www.capeirish.com/ref_lib/harmony.html, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFthTtqaNVY. The single most useful tip I got from my course was to keep things simple: if you know what 3 notes are in any chord you can do the "one finger change" to move chords: this may mean you are in a different chord inversion from the root chord, but I don’t bother my head thinking about inversions! Self-directed. Michael Tennyson of Leeds … when he’s not driving a JCB Only an intimate knowledge of the music is going to help there. No. Do you like traditional Irish music? (Bob considers getting out some wax teething for "vamping." Vamping on a piano or accordion etc, simply means going oom-pah, oop-pah (or boom-chick, boom-chick if you prefer). E.g. I didn't think I would like the music … I am kind of in the same boat. A search of "piano" here will reveal multiple threads on the subject, and they will include recommendations on pianists to listen to. http://www.cranfordpub.com/recordings/Morin.htm. NOTES OF THE SCALE OF D MAJ D, E, F#, G, A, B, C (a note cannot be major or minor, but a chord can). In a sophisticated ensemble, melody and accompaniment are symbiotic; more often (e.g. Also the head of the Music Academy at UL is Mícheál Ó Súilleabháin, a great pianist (I’m sure he can vamp if he feels like it). time fiddle tune. They recognize that the music is not harmonically complicated (mostly), that the number of chords needed for a given tune are relatively few, but still it’s tricky. Note how some musicians stay on one chord for a very long time, sometimes for an entire part (or two!). Speaking of nice sounding acoustic pianos - the Cork School of Music bought something like 50 new Steinways recently. So true - at least, it seems to work that way in London - maybe sessions should advertise as being one or the other? To start with, you could do worse than finding a tune book with chord symbols and learn set chord progressions to a few familiar tunes. This is true to a certain extent in that there can often be different chord options that will work equally well in certain settings. but how much more drive is given by Bernadette Flanagan… Rose Conway Flanagan’s daughter, Brian Conway’s niece. Piano Accompaniment to Fiddlers, First Lesson, with Ryan Thomson - $29.95. for Irish Music in particular, look at http://www.capeirish.com/ref_lib/harmony.html The other things that can add to accompaniment are bass octave runs or walk-downs and some syncopation, but not so much that you throw the melody players off course! I know usually I would have a really long post explaining my exact situation, but that pretty much covers it. My best answer is: look up what notes are used to form chords, try different sequences of chords that contain those notes and listen, listen and then listen some more. 2 takes years of experience and enables you to accompany (some) tunes on the fly. Even for piano players. "In other words, sometimes chords that don’t initially seem to fit the best will work if part of a strong progression." I guess no more than I am of "boom-chick" style guitar or anything else (that’s just me though). *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Piano accompaniment may be out of fashion, but never out of date, if played by the right person. You will will lose fewer melody-playing friends and be in demand for sessions and shows as a member of a surprisingly small gang of capable ITM accompanists. DVD and CD Description: This video course is for beginners with no previous. using C as an example again: C root chord is CEG; playing that in your right hand, just move little finger up one white note to A: now you have an Am chord on CEA (2nd inversion). The Kesh Jig [sheet music] -- Irish jig, G major. F. Mercer, New York, 1935, ii, p.88) wrote of having ‘heard one of the town waits, at Shrewsbury, vamp a base upon all … http://communicasound.com/en/music-theory-circle-fifths-video/, Think Donald’s quote above might be from the second half of "Leaving Lismore". Kellie, Click on my user name, and you will find some basic info on accompaniment in my profile. experience with piano accompaniment or backup to. "…when one is playing reels in 4/4 but most modern players often prefer to play reels in 2/2 - even though they don’t know it…" In other words, sometimes chords that don’t initially seem to fit the best will work if part of a strong progression. How would one go about accomplishing (writing) this strong progression? This is a worthwhile CD to have and a must if you are interested in Irish music! If I was you, I would start with a tune you know really well (could be one of your own) and try to find chords that fit. Yeah, but Cape Breton is a different thing altogether - the piano was alway thriving there, and the prowess and style of the CB piano players is in most cases admirable - they don’t go half way, oh no sir! Crude as it seems, this advice was useful. Just in case any of that was unclear: This creates nice tension. I learned jazz harmony and voicing but am worlds away from calling myself a jazz pianist - they are beasts. It can sound terrific backing the fiddle, flute, or both at once, and you don’t have to look very hard to find beautiful, recent recordings that employ piano backing. I agree that the Cape Breton tradition has, in some ways, a more developed style of piano accompaniment - and some Irish piano accompaniment is a little too simplistic for my taste. Ottawa Valley and Québec piano styles, on the other hand, have always left me cold. You don’t have to change chord every time the melody suggests that you don’t, and if you do, you don’t have to change to the same chord every time. I suggest also listening to early Lúnasa - Donough Hennessy and Trevor Hutchinson present very nice progressions with variations. reading ability is needed. They know the tunes, and will drop into playing melody from time to time when the mood strikes. He’s not just backing either, he does a lot of melody playing, but he does it very well. The time, experience, and learning behind those points is immense. (Most people will have encountered the session situation where all chord players are being "instinctive" but no two are playing the same chords, with rather dubious results!). usually vamp in double octaves. Just my tuppence worth. I much prefer the more understated but nonetheless sophisticated approach of players like Charlie Lennon, Brian McGrath and John Blake (no co-incidence that all three of these accompanists are also oustanding melody players on other instruments). It becomes an aesthetic argument often between traditional and modern. Jim Corry is great, so is Geraldine Cotter; her piano accompaniment of Ronan Browne, Maeve Donnelly, and Peadar O’Loughlin on several different recordings they’ve done is first class. I agree with Zippydw’s comments about the differences between real pianos and digital pianos. Martin. Barnes, Peter - Interview with a Vamper: Piano Accompaniment Techniques for Traditional Dance Music - Piano - Canis Publ on Amazon.com. It’s a world away from mere vamping. It’s useful to know that, as in the list above, with some exceptions, I is always major, II mostly minor, III mostly minor, VI major, VII is as rare as hens’ teeth so forget it. Vamp in that case being 'just play something in the background and pay attention to when the regular music sections start again.' The answer to this question is as complex as the answer to the question "What’s the right way to play guitar in Irish music… Re: Piano Vamping to Irish Tunes If you can spare the $20 a month, the OAIM (Online Academy of Irish Music) has a course on accompaniment for piano. This term is sometimes misused -- it does not mean "any instrumental passage in a vocal number," and it is not synonymous with "intro," although a number may begin, or end, with a vamp. The process of learning backing harmony could work with simply ear training from recordings of your favorite player but it will never work with an instructional book alone. Now that is really taking the music form upscale. What makes a progression strong? While the flute takes flight, there’s some surprisingly restrained drumming from John Moloney and old-style piano vamping from Paddy McEvoy and Paul Gurney. Three Irish… Featuring many of his wonderful compositions, the banjo is shown in a variety of different musical combinations and styles. It is a lot of fun and I can’t wait to start playing at our local session. Membership is free, and it only takes a moment to sign up. Alot like having a submarine builder design a sail boat. These instrumental songs are perfect for a memorial service or funeral. Although often encountered, it plays a fringe role in Irish Traditional dance music. 1 & 3 you can do by study. Anyway, here’s a link or two for Mac Morin: I didn’t work on it but the combination of my past piano experience and basic chord knowledge, knowing a respectable amount of tunes, and tons of listening seemed to have just showed up out of the blue. There’s a bit more than this to Figured Bass, but that’s the bones of it. Award-Winning Irish Music Teachers. Hello. As to "why those specific chords fit with those notes", well I think, Kellie, you need to study some basic harmony: how chords are formed, the basic chords related to a scale and how the chords relate to each other (including the cycle of fifths as in Boots’ video link above). Re: Piano Vamping to Irish Tunes Here’s the walking down thing, where you could go 1, 7, 1, 7 (Am G Am G if the tune is in Am) but instead go 1 7 6 5 (or the equivalent) it starts at 3:27 Will you be playing the piano? Now the obvious thing, probably, would be Also, the ability to direct connect to sound systems and recording devices make it desirable. Lovely stuff. Speaking as someone who has been playing piano for much longer (thirty-one years) than is good for anyone, I want to thank you people for recommendations about which piano players I might want to try listening to. The piano is commonly used for accompaniment. Couple of thoughts for details of chords and scales: http://www.canispublishing.com/. I’m mainly a guitarist and only dabble in piano accompaniment, but…. P.s. Since a local Irish Session was started here in 1995, I have been playing piano more-or-less irregularly with this group of mixed nuts. Old timers called this "vamping." A couple examples come to mind. 11 people found this helpful. I have quite a few recordings with piano, as mentioned above, particularly on ceili band cd’s. I hear people talking of vamping on piano for Irish music. But narrowing the endless, wonderful history of Irish music down to just ten songs? But for the best piano vamping accompaniment I would second listening to and studying the playing of Violet Tulloch. " Kind of rollicking, inventive yet still perfectly suited to the music. So I don’t view it as being out of date, just another option when the instrument comes out of the case. These will cover most of what you need. YES YES YES, Sez the guitar, mando, banjo and zouki player…from Ozzie land… I’m not a fan of the old "boom-chick" style piano accompaniment. I know that I have to come up with some basic chord progressions, but how do I know what chords to use? But you can play it in whatever key suits you. I agree completely with the person who said that when a piano player makes a recording, they ought to use a real piano instead of an electronic keyboard because they are in a recording studio and you would think the studio could afford a real piano. That’s a very big learn there, Kellie. Alasdair White Scottish West Highland Fiddle - … This is a worthwhile CD to have and a must if you are interested in Irish music! To my ears, Eleanor Kane Neary (1915-93) is still the leading innovator on piano in Irish traditional music. Just as much as ignorance of the tune or appropriate chords, this generates a lot of bad feeling and negativity towards accompaniment, and is equally relevant to bodhran players etc. I have to say that I myself prefer the guitar/bouzouki style backing, imho. Key of Dmaj (start with the major keys and if you keep at it, the mysteries of accompanying minor keys will yield themselves up). I happen to like the sound of a slightly out-of-tune saloony old upright piano, but that’s probably from listening to too many 78s. His recordings are something that I plan to spend some time with. is irish piano vamping out of date?…. He’s a brilliant musician and a very worthwhile study. Practice chord changes to tunes you’re already familiar with. # Posted by chrysanthemumfairy 9 years ago. I started playing about three years ago on the whistle and flute and I feel pretty good about where I am along the long path I am on. Or maybe you already play keyboard at church or in a non-Irish context and want to learn how to play along with the flutes and fiddles in a bona fide Irish … Learn Piano Accompaniment Online. I choose to play where my tastes will lead me and so far my music friends have had nothing but good comments. Steinways for ITM???!!! Brown" on jazz piano in a swing combo. Mind you, it’s nice playing at either, I’m all for diversity . c3 B c2|A4 G2|A2 G2 E2|G6| I … It is comforting to know that there are other who appreciate the skill and effort involved in successful accompaniment. Fiddling Thomsons. All seems like evidence that piano is alive and well in Irish music. Donald’s three points again are wonderfully simple and concise. A mixolydian, C# and F# but G natural. To quote the I Ching: "Perseverance furthers". is irish piano playing dead? 13:21. Not sure if there is a "correct key" for this, but I have versions in D and A. You should hear Ryan Molloy. 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